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Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no)
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 22:57:16 -0700
On Oct 1, 2010, at 8:20 PM, George Bonser wrote:
We will shortly be providing a "list of number resources with no valid POC" for those who desire it (per the current bulk Whois policy.)If you can put an annotation into a whois records for a POC, saying explicity that you can't get ahold of this person, then itwouldseem to me to be a rather trivial matter of programming totransplanta very similar sort of annotation into each and every IP block or AS record that has that same specific POC record as one of itsassociatedPOC records, either Admin, or Technical, or whatever.Also a nice idea, and one that I've taken as a formal suggestion for improvement.Those two things would be enough for me for the numbers covered by agreement, the legacy issue is a tougher nut. There should be some sort of requirement that any network being announced have a valid point of contact. Whose jurisdiction that would fall under for a global Internet beats me.
It's an individual decision of each organization choosing to accept and further pass along the route. Like it or not, there is not "THE INTERNET" there is a set of independent networks operating under a commonly agreed framework of protocols. Each network operator is free to accept, deny, or otherwise handle any traffic they wish on any basis they choose. This is the greatest strength of the internet. It is also it's most exploitable weakness in some ways. However, changing it would fundamentally destroy much of it's usefulness and resilience as a tool for the democratization of communication. As such, I must oppose any such move to apply greater central authority. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time, (continued)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time goemon (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Dave Sparro (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time John Curran (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resource routing no) John Curran (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) George Bonser (Oct 02)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resource routing no) Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 03)
- Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) John Curran (Oct 03)
- Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 03)
- Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) John Curran (Oct 03)
- Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 03)
- Re: NEVERMIND! (was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... ) Michael Dillon (Oct 03)