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RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time
From: "George Bonser" <gbonser () seven com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:28:01 -0700
-----Original Message----- From: Owen DeLong Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 4:04 PM To: George Bonser Cc: Ricky Beam; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:27 PM, George Bonser wrote: They do, indeed, for space that is/was issued by ARIN. That space is subject to annual fees and there is a clear and consistent method for doing so. The bigger problem is with legacy space (most of the space listed in the complaint we are discussing, if not all). In the case of legacy space, it's actually very hard for ARIN to even identify the status of the organization in question, let alone take any sort of action with respect to said space.
Maybe this is a teachable moment for me. According to my reading of the Legacy RSA: " For purposes of this Legacy Agreement, the term "Services" may include, without limitation, the inclusion of the legacy IP address space, and/or Autonomous System numbers ("ASNs") previously issued to Legacy Applicant in the ARIN "WHOIS" database, inverse addressing on network blocks, maintenance of resource records, and administration of IP address space related to Included Number Resources issued prior to ARIN's inception on December 22, 1997 in its service area. IP address space and ASNs shall be defined as "number resources." " ... " If Legacy Applicant does not pay the Annual Legacy Maintenance Fee or other fees that may be owed ARIN hereunder, ARIN shall provide written notification to the Legacy Applicant approximately thirty (30) days following the date on which the payment is not made. If Legacy Applicant fails to make payment in response to the notice of delinquency, ARIN shall provide Legacy Applicant with an additional written notice, by certified or registered mail, return receipt requested, (as appropriate in each country), and, when possible, by e-mail and telephone. If the Legacy Applicant has not made payment within 12 months of the due date and/or ARIN is unable to contact the Legacy Applicant during those 12 months, ARIN has the right to: (i) stop providing Services, or (ii) terminate this Legacy Agreement and revoke the Included Number Resources." Or is this some other sort of "legacy" thing?
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time, (continued)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ricky Beam (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time John Curran (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources) John Curran (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time (more re: recovered resources) John Springer (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ricky Beam (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Franck Martin (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time goemon (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resource routing no) John Curran (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) George Bonser (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- RE: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... (Resource listings yes, resourcerouting no) George Bonser (Oct 02)