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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:44:48 +1030
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:45:01 -0500 Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net> wrote:
On 11/5/2010 5:32 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:It's really quiet in here. So, for some Friday fun let me whap at the hornets nest and see what happens...>;-) http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdfSCTP is a great protocol. It has already been implemented in a number of stacks. With these benefits over that theory, it still hasn't become mainstream yet. People are against change. They don't want to leave v4. They don't want to leave tcp/udp. Technology advances, but people will only change when they have to.
Lock of SCTP availability is nothing to do with people's avoidance of change - it's likely that deployed Linux kernels in the last 3 to 5 years already have it complied in. IPv4 NAT is what has prevented it from being deployed, because NATs don't understand it and therefore can't NAT addresses carried within it. This is one of the reasons why NAT is bad for the Internet - it has prevented deployment and/or utilisation of new transport protocols, such as SCTP or DCCP, that provide benefits over UDP or TCP.
Jack (lost brain cells actually reading that pdf)
Glad I haven't then, just the quotes from it hurt. Regards, Mark.
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- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-), (continued)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Chris Adams (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Niels Bakker (Nov 09)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nathan Eisenberg (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Matthew Petach (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Brim (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Finch (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Eugen Leitl (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nathan Eisenberg (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) William Herrin (Nov 08)