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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:20:47 -0500
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:
And so, "...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture: Layers are recursive.": Anyone who has bridged an ethernet via a TCP based : IPSec tunnel understands that layers are recursive. WRT the paper I'm having trouble correlating what you say with their notion of recursive layer network communications. It seems apples and oranges
Hi Scott, Having skimmed the article and some of its predecessors, I find it hard to determine whether there's any correlation. REALLY hard.
http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdf: John Day has been chasing this notion long enough to write three : network stacks. If it works and isn't obviously inferior in its : operational resource consumption, where's the proof-of-concept code? TINOS will provide the underlying platform and execution environment upon which a RINA prototype can be developed.
"will provide" "can be developed"
the "CBA prototype" link being: http://www.tssg.org/4WARD/2010/07/component_based_architecture_n.html
Described in the videos as a clever modeling tool forked off of JNode which had a plain old TCP/IP stack written in Java. But what I'm still missing is use of that modeling system to demonstrate any concepts in Day's plan. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:
From: Tony Finch <dot () dotat at> : I note that he doesn't actually describe how to implement : a large-scale addressing and routing architecture. It's all : handwaving. There is more discussed in the book.
A colleague thoughtfully lent me a copy of the book. I found it more incondite than recondite. I'd like there to be some abstruse nugget of insight in there. I really would. Maybe you can tell me the page number, 'cause I just can't wade through the rest of it. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-), (continued)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) William Herrin (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Brim (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Finch (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Eugen Leitl (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 08)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nathan Eisenberg (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) William Herrin (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Finch (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Finch (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nick Hilliard (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Finch (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Tony Li (Nov 10)