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Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop
From: Steven King <sking () kingrst com>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:16:17 -0400
Along with bpduguard, Cisco switches also continue to look for loops with loopguard. They continuously look for the Keepalive packets that they send out each port. So as long as you have not turned off STP all together on the port, you will be fine. On 3/26/10 6:21 PM, Matthew Huff wrote:
Bpduguard if running cisco. set all the switch ports to bpduguard or enable it globally -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:cra () WPI EDU] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:09 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Anyone have suggestions on Ethernet LAN loop-prevention? With the advent of Auto MDI/MDI-X ports on switches, it seems way too easy to accidentally or maliciously create loops between network jacks. We have bored or inattentive people plugging in patch cords between adjacent network jacks. STP for loop-prevention isn't working so well for us. STP "edge" or "portfast" or "faststart" modes are required for end-station ports (with normal STP, DHCP often times out after 30+ seconds it takes to go into Forwarding state). Since the "edge" STP mode goes into Forwarding state immediately, there is a period when loops will form, causing havok with upstream gear until STP blocks the port (if it ever does see below). "Desktop" switches. You know, those 4 or 5 port Gigabit Ethernet switches. Apparently, many of them don't do any kind of STP at all. Recommendations on ones that do STP? RSTP: is it any better than traditional STP in regards to "edge" ports and blocking before a loop gets out of hand? Or perhaps blocking for 5-10 seconds before going into Forwarding state, hopefully preventing loops before they happen but also allowing DHCP clients to get an address without timeouts? Recommendations on "Desktop" switches that do RSTP? Thanks for your suggestions/discussion.
-- Steve KingSenior Senior Linux Engineer - Advance Internet, Inc. Cisco Certified Network Associate CompTIA Linux+ Certified Professional CompTIA A+ Certified Professional
Current thread:
- Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Chuck Anderson (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Mike Lyon (Mar 26)
- RE: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Matthew Huff (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop James Hess (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Chuck Anderson (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop James Hess (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Owen DeLong (Mar 27)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Chuck Anderson (Mar 27)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop James Hess (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Steven King (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Chuck Anderson (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Chuck Anderson (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Anton Kapela (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Owen DeLong (Mar 26)
- Re: Auto MDI/MDI-X + conference rooms + bored == loop Mark Foster (Mar 26)