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Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers]
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:50:26 -0700
Again, apples and oranges to a degree. Car owners don't receive a "use at your own risk" disclaimer either. Yet some Toyota owners faced horrifying instances of "subpar" prechecks. GM recalled a million or so cars and the list will always go on and on. Mistakes happen period and when mistakes DON'T happen Murphy's Law does. I can speak for any software vendor but I can speak about insecurity and exploitability of software. That too is what it is from any standpoint be it anywhere in Redmond to any other location. Look at Sun's horrible misstep with telnet:
Note, however, that in all of these cases, the car manufacturers were liable and did have to take action to resolve the issues. WHY are software companies not held to these same standards? There's no need for new law, just for the judiciary to wake up and stop granting them a bizarre and unreasonable exemption from the existing laws. Owen
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- ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Paul Ferguson (Jun 08)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Rich Kulawiec (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
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- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] J. Oquendo (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Jorge Amodio (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] J. Oquendo (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers] Barry Shein (Jun 09)
- Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike againstcyber attackers] Michael Painter (Jun 10)