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Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:51:36 -0400
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:11:04 BST, Matthew Walster said:
Seriously, this is getting silly. I'm not even going to respond any more - if you genuinely think users care about network management, you're wrong. They treat it as a black box, and that isn't going to change for a long, long, long time.
The point you're missing is that users may not care about network management *directly* - but they may care very much about the *features* that the network-ready appliance they bought at Best Buy provides them using multiple subnets under the hood. If the box says "provides separate 'Guest' wireless access", that can be a selling point even if the user doesn't know it happens because the unit uses separate subnets for the "home" and "guest" addresses. End users are already used to a world where they plug in some hardware, run a program off the CD, have it ask a few questions about how you want to use the device, click the 'Do It!' button, and it all works. If networking is any different experience *for the end user*, we've as an industry screwed up big time.
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- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course, (continued)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Jeroen Massar (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Leo Bicknell (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course David Conrad (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tore Anderson (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course JC Dill (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Jeroen Massar (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Stephen Sprunk (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)