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Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.
From: Jeff Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:05:32 -0500
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us> wrote:
On 12/2/10 12:28 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:You are assuming the absence of any of the following optimizations: 1. MulticastMulticast is great for simulating old school broadcasting, but I don't see how it can apply to Netflix/Amazon style demand streaming where
I do. Let's assume that there is a multicast future where it's being legitimately used for live television, and whatever else. The same mcast infrastructure will be utilized by Amazon.com to stream popular titles (can you say New Releases) onto users' devices. You may be unicast for the first few minutes of the movie (if you really want to start watching immediately) and change over to a multicast-distributed stream once you have "caught up" to an in-progress stream. If Netflix had licensing agreements which made it possible for their users to store movies on their local device, this would work even better for Netflix, because of the "queue and watch later" nature of their site and users. I have a couple dozen movies in my instant queue. It may be weeks before I watch them all. The most popular movies can be multicast, and my DVR can listen to the stream when it comes on, store it, and wait for me to watch it. I am sure Amazon and Netflix have both thought of this already (if not, they need to hire new people who still remember how pay-per-view worked on C-band satellite) and are hoping multicast will one-day come along and massively reduce their bandwidth consumption on the most popular titles. I am also certain the cable companies have thought of it, and added it to the long list of reasons they will never offer Internet multicast, or at least, not until a competitor pops up and does it in such a way that customers understand it's a feature they aren't getting. -- Jeff S Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz> Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts
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- The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Leo Bicknell (Dec 02)
- Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Owen DeLong (Dec 02)
- Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Seth Mattinen (Dec 02)
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- Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Jared Mauch (Dec 03)
- Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Seth Mattinen (Dec 02)
- Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet. Owen DeLong (Dec 02)
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