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Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)
From: Jamie A Lawrence <jal () jal org>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:50:09 -0500
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:33:14 PST, Seth Mattinen said:Back to my original question: is there really not a better solution?Well, we *could* hunt down the perpetrators, pool some $$, and hire 3 or 4 baseball-bat wielding professional explainers to go explain our position to them. Figuring out how to do so without breaking any laws is the tough part..
The Cameros or SUVs and baseball bats are normally not in sync with local legal traditions, depending on your local legal statutes. A certain ISP in California, however, seems to have learned a more subtle lesson, perhaps with left more satisfying results. And while I don't think that is any serious fix, I also think that there might well be a deterrence effect, to whatever extent that works - it might not kill a system, but it can provide deterrence. Hell, I expect the perpetrator for this attack to be on this list. So it becomes more more step on the arms race.
Current thread:
- RE: isprime DOS in progress, (continued)
- RE: isprime DOS in progress Steven Lisson (Jan 23)
- Re: isprime DOS in progress Joe Abley (Jan 23)
- RE: isprime DOS in progress Luke Sheldrick (Jan 23)
- Re: isprime DOS in progress Chris McDonald (Jan 23)
- Re: isprime DOS in progress Noel Butler (Jan 23)
- Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Seth Mattinen (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Gadi Evron (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Seth Mattinen (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jamie A Lawrence (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Christopher Morrow (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Danny McPherson (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Danny McPherson (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jack Bates (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Roland Dobbins (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Mark Andrews (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Martin Hannigan (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Mark Andrews (Jan 24)