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Re: IPv6 Confusion


From: Justin Shore <justin () justinshore com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:08:21 -0600

Steven Lisson wrote:
Hi,

I find it a shame that NAT-PT has become depreciated, with people
talking about carrier grade NATS I think combining these with NAT-PT
could help with the transition after we run out of IPv4 space.

For me the bigger problem is how do I enable IPv6 on my assorted CE-facing edges when management is still buying edge hardware that can not and will not ever support IPv6. Our CATV solution can't support IPv6 (it's not a DOCSIS 3 thing; it's that the specific model of CMTS we're buying can not do IPv6). Our shiny new ADSL2+ solution can't do IPv6 and support in hardware can't be added down the road. For that matter our FTTH solution which is L2 only doesn't really support IPv6 with their pseudo L3 security options.

So 1) how does one get management of a US SP to realize that IPv6 is coming well within the lifetime of the brand-new equipment that we're purchasing and should be a major show-stopping purchasing decision, and 2) how do we get common equipment manufacturers to build in IPv6 support to the equipment we're buying? During our FTTH dog and pony show process with half a dozen different vendors, I asked each of them about their IPv6 support and they all unanimously claimed that there was no demand for it from their customers.

At this point I'm looking at doing 6to4 tunnels far into the future.

Justin


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