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Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space


From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews () isc org>
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:55:51 +1100


In message <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAN5U5OuspydJheQZRk7Gfl7CgAAAEAAAAJpeo1QnvJ5O
kAZswoydm+kBAAAAAA==@skeeve.org>, "Skeeve Stevens" writes:
Exactly.....

So.. do I have to be in the US to get ARIN space?  Technically space you get
is announceable anywhere in the world...
Can I just have a /32 from ARIN please and not pay the ton of money that
APNIC ask for?
I can setup a POBOX in New York if that will help? ;-)

Actually, that is an interesting question... If I have a network I am
building in the US/other locale, but I am based here, can I become an
ARIN/RIPE/etc member and get a range out of them?

        If you are build in the US you will presumable connecting
        it the US so you should be getting the space from ARIN.
        This will help with address allocations aligned with the
        geography.  I can well seen US sites filtering all APNIC
        allocations and using a covering prefix to reach APNIC sites
        as one way to handle route growth.

 
...Skeeve

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter J. Cherny [mailto:peterc () luddite com au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:06 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space

Owen DeLong wrote:
...
I don't know what the APNIC fees and membership requirements are.

A succinct summary, see below !

However, in the ARIN region, you do not need to be a member to get
address space.  The renewal fee for end-user space is $100/year.
If you can't afford $100/year, how are you staying connected to the
network or paying to power your equipment?

APNIC fees are an order of magnitude (or more) higher !

http://www.apnic.net/member/feesinfo.html#non_mem_fee
ftp://ftp.apnic.net/apnic/docs/non-member-fees-2008 (APNIC-118)

I quote from APNIC-118 :

A host address in IPv4 is defined as a /32 and a site address
in IPv6 is defined a /48.

The initial fee for an assignment or allocation of IP
addresses is AU$1.27 per host or site address, with a minimum
fee of AU$10,384.

After the first year of the initial assignment or allocation,
there is an annual registration fee is AU$0.127 per host or
site address, with a minimum fee of AU$1,038.40.



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Mark Andrews, ISC
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