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RE: IPv6 routing /48s


From: "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:20:25 -0600

Just for the record, I like my host being the degenerate case of "6to4 site
+ site router all in one".
This makes my life much easier, as I frequently need IPv6 connectivity and
frequently have a public IP(v4) address (EVDO, FTW).

Having said that - what applies to me may well not be the common case.

(Just wanted to state this in case MS is listening and was thinking about
removing the functionality.  I think the right approach is to detect the
failure (s) when they occur, not to remove the functionality)


/TJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Bates [mailto:jbates () brightok net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:05 PM
To: Nathan Ward
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: IPv6 routing /48s

Nathan Ward wrote:
The problem here is XPSP2/Vista assuming that non-RFC1918 =
unfiltered/unNATed for the purposes of 6to4.
Well, deeper problem is that they're using 6to4 on an end host I
suppose
- it's supposed to be used on routers.


While I don't doubt that the 6to4 is broken in such circumstances, how many
IPv6 content providers are using 6to4 addressing and not 2001::
addressing? 6to4 by default on xp and vista, in my experience, is only used
if a) talking to another 6to4 address or b) there is no IPv4 address
available.

6to4 never seemed like a viable method for content providing, though its
use
at the eyeball layer is somewhat iffy given that it's primary use is for
other 6to4 addresses. If prefix policies are altered to use it for
2001:: addressing, problems start arising quickly.

A good example is that traceroutes through my he.net tunnel using 6to4
source addresses do not get replies through he.net's network, presumably
due
to their routers not being 6to4 aware and having no route to respond.
Responses pick up again after picking up a network such as NTT that is 6to4
aware. My 2001:: addressing works just fine the entire route.

I'm sure there's quite a few networks that aren't 6to4 aware, hindering
6to4 connectivity to non-6to4 addresses.

Jack



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