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Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update]


From: Lou Katz <lou () metron com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:50:35 -0700


On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:56:02AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:
 As I mentioned in my presentation at NANOG 42 in San Jose, the
 biggest barrier we face in shrinking the "time-to-exploit" window
 with regards to contacting people responsible for assisting in
 mitigating malicious issues is finding someone to actually
 respond.

Fergie.. you (and various others in the "send emails, expect
takedowns" biz) - phish, IPR violations, whatever.. you're missing a
huge, obvious point

If you send manual notificattions (aka email to a crowded abuse queue)
expect 24 - 72 hours response

If you have high enough numbers of the stuff to report, do what large
ISPs do among themselves, set up and offer an ARF'd / IODEF feedback
loop or some other automated way to send complaints, that is machine
parseable, and that's sent - by prior agreement - to a specific
address where the ISP can process it, and quite probably prioritize it
above all the "j00 hxx0r3d m3 by doing dns lookups!!!!" email.

That kind of report can be handled within minutes.

Is there an equivalent mechanism for those of us at the fringes of the galaxy to
report problems? What is probably needed for little folks like me is not
instant response but rather an address and formatting specs so that the information
is of maximum usefullness to you and we don't get auto-naks. After all, I can
probably generate a few reports a week, but not hundreds per day.




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