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Re: IPv6 & DNS


From: Stephen Wilcox <steve.wilcox () packetrade com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:23:37 +0100


On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:57:30PM -0400, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

This is one more reason, some OSs may not support IPv6 DNS transport, so you
need to keep dual stack.

The OS, IPv6, udp/tcp and DNS are all at different layers of the protocol stack.. we are supposed to be able to 
seamlessly switch out lower layers without the upper layers needing to be aware. This seems to be proving difficult.

Also, if roots/TLDs do not support yet IPv6, you will need to have at least
a dual stack DNS in your network.

No, I just wont bother with v6! If this thing doesnt 'just work' why am I going to spend time and effort trying to use 
it for negative gain?

I think in the long term we will be there, using IPv6-only in LANs, but
don't see the reason, at least not an immediate one, unless you've a very
specific scenario/business case, and then you probably need to have
translators at the edge, and then it may resolve the DNS issue also for you.

Why would I need it in a LAN? I can use RFC1918 if I want to be an island and then I dont have to put in kludges or 
talk my users through why their apps arent working, that will also resolve the DNS issue :)

Steve



De: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Responder a: <owner-nanog () merit edu>
Fecha: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
Para: <nanog () merit edu>
Asunto: IPv6 & DNS



--- Barrett Lyon <blyon () blyon com> wrote:

I don't see any v6 glue there...  Rather than having
conversations  
about transition to IPv6, maybe we should be sure it
works natively  
first?  It's rather ironic to think that for v6 DNS
to work an  
incumbent legacy protocol is still required.

Consider that Windows XP (and server 2k3) will not,
under any circumstance, send a DNS request over IPv6,
and yet they were widely considered "IPv6 compliant."

Consider also how long it took to get a working way of
telling autoconfigured hosts about which DNS servers
to use (without manually entering 128-bit addresses).

To me, the above show that the bulk of the actual
deployments were in dual-stack or tunnel environments,
and greenfield implementations were few and far
between.  There's a surprising amount of unexplored
"here be dragons" territory in IPv6, given how long
some very smart people have been working on it.

-David Barak

David Barak
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