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Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 08:16:26 -0700


Adrian Chadd wrote:
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Sam Stickland wrote:

Personally I hate NAT. But I currently work in a large enterprise 
environment and NAT is suprisingly popular. I came from a service 
provider background and some of the attitudes I've discovered towards 
private addresses in enterprise environments are quite surprising. Aside 
for the usual proponents of using NAT to hide your internal address 
infrastructure (which security always seem to insist upon) quite a 
popular design rule of from seems to be "Only carry public addresses on 
the public Internet and only carry private addresses on your private 
network" :-|

If an Enterprise doesn't have a great deal for IP addresses that need to 
be routed on the public internet, and they thing that NAT is a _good_ 
design choice, it seems to me that they don't have a great deal of 
pressure to move to IPv6.

In fact, and call me crazy, but I can't help but wonder how many enterprises
out there will see IPv6 and its concept of "real IPs for all machines,
internal and external!" and respond with "Hell No."

Anyone got any numbers for that? I'm happy to admit I don't. :)


Hence the discussion of site-local (dead), ula, ula-c etc.

However widespread use of private address space in ipv4 costs people
huge amounts of money when you have to merge the business processes of
two or more large enterprise networks.





Adrian



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