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Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 08:16:26 -0700
Adrian Chadd wrote:
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Sam Stickland wrote:Personally I hate NAT. But I currently work in a large enterprise environment and NAT is suprisingly popular. I came from a service provider background and some of the attitudes I've discovered towards private addresses in enterprise environments are quite surprising. Aside for the usual proponents of using NAT to hide your internal address infrastructure (which security always seem to insist upon) quite a popular design rule of from seems to be "Only carry public addresses on the public Internet and only carry private addresses on your private network" :-| If an Enterprise doesn't have a great deal for IP addresses that need to be routed on the public internet, and they thing that NAT is a _good_ design choice, it seems to me that they don't have a great deal of pressure to move to IPv6.In fact, and call me crazy, but I can't help but wonder how many enterprises out there will see IPv6 and its concept of "real IPs for all machines, internal and external!" and respond with "Hell No." Anyone got any numbers for that? I'm happy to admit I don't. :)
Hence the discussion of site-local (dead), ula, ula-c etc. However widespread use of private address space in ipv4 costs people huge amounts of money when you have to merge the business processes of two or more large enterprise networks.
Adrian
Current thread:
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff, (continued)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Jared Mauch (Jun 03)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Sam Stickland (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Adrian Chadd (Jun 04)
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- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Sam Stickland (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Donald Stahl (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Adrian Chadd (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Donald Stahl (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Adrian Chadd (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 06)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Sam Stickland (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Jared Mauch (Jun 03)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Joel Jaeggli (Jun 04)
- Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Jim Shankland (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Joe Abley (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT Sam Stickland (Jun 04)
- RE: Security gain from NAT Howard C. Berkowitz (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Colm MacCarthaigh (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Matthew Palmer (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff) Donald Stahl (Jun 04)
- Re: Security gain from NAT Jason Lewis (Jun 04)