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redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]


From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:51:16 -0500 (CDT)


On 1 Apr 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:

We're looking at the alligators surrounding us. Gadi is trying to 
convince us to help him in draining the swamp (which may indeed be a 
positive thing in the long run).

Does that sound about right?

that sounds exactly wrong.  harkening back to my experience with "check-names"
i can tell you that all i did was scare away a few alligators and the swamp
remained.  (probably the same was true of the original MAPS RBL.)  what we've
got in the DNS registry/registrar market today is as corrupt and abusable as
the California electricity market was back in 2000-2001, and we're seeing the
same kind of windfalls enjoyed by the same kind of assholes now as then.  the
system is ripe for policing, which icann has shown that they will not do.  i
want to see gadi in "ralph nader" mode, shining a light on all this, making it
harder to profit from building the "infrastructure of evil."  if that's what
you meant by swamp-draining, then i apologize for misunderstanding you.

So, is the infrastructure in question which is an abuse infrastructure,
the ICANN policy and registry/registrars combination on TLD management and
domain registration/revokation?

I can testify as to some registrars (enom, godaddy, tucows, etc.) being
very responsive and some registries (read .info) being very
cooperative.

OBVIOUSLY this is not the case for everyone.

I can testify as to ICANN folks being clued-in and helpful as far as they 
can under current policies which make ICANN itself being very much
non-existent when it comes to security and abuse.

        Gadi.

-- 
Paul Vixie



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