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Re: Cogent move without renumbering
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:39:27 -1000
On 07 Oct 2005, Paul Vixie wrote:IX's are not, alas, the center of the internet, no matter what anybody's marketing might say. the vast majority of traffic exchange is by private interconnect, which might be an IX crossconnect, but might just as likely be some kind of ISO-L1 or ISO-L2 link through a metro or telco or whatever.
bill:
most "ISPs that matter" aren't connected to _any_ IX. (Noted as well by Paul Vixie in an earlier message.)
randy:
this is not what vixie said at all, luckily for him, because it is incorrectPerhaps you are ....
i am saying that paul did not say that most isps that matter are not connected to any ix, which can be clearly [not] seen in the text of his you quoted. what he also did not say, but you put words into his keyboard to contradict was that ... most isps that matter are actually at ixen, though they do not exchange large amounts of traffic there. ixen do not much like the gigabits of traffic exchanged between the major isps, and the isps don't particularly wish to expose that traffic to ixen. note that this is a somewhat us-centric view, but does extend somewhat. but what does this have to do with a collection of newcomers, amnesiacs, and pontificants [re]learning the facts of life about peering, depeering chicken, etc? no answer required. randy
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