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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Charles Gucker <cgucker () onesc net>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:56:27 -0700
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:53:02AM -0600, Lewis Butler wrote:
On 05 Oct 2005, at 13:44 , Charles Gucker wrote:Oh man, I have to jump in here for a moment. Not that I agree with what happened, but to refute your claim that Cogent can get L3 elsewhere, it goes both ways. L3 can also get Cogent connectivity elsewhere. This is a big game of chicken, it will be interesting to see who backs down first.Ok, as I understand it, Level3 can get Cogent connectivity back simply be restoring the peering that they suspended, right?
Simply put, yes. Longer answer, Level(3) would have to "kiss and make up" with Cogent before the sessions would be coordinated to be turned up. There would certainly have to be a renewed level of communication between these two networks to come up with this result.
I mean, Cogent can pay someone to route to L3 or L3 can fix what they did on their side, they have no need to go anywhere but their own routers, right?
Well, there are three options here. -> Both networks kiss and make up, ending up turning up the pre-existing peering session, or possibly additional peering sessions. -> Cogent obtains transit from another provider to Level(3). -> Level(3) obtains transit from another provider to Cogent. Business decisions do not always make sense, stubbornness can very easily get in the way of a proper decison[1]. charles [1] As outlined in this thread, one person's proper decision may not be another person's.
Current thread:
- Re: How to multihome endusers [was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering], (continued)
- Re: How to multihome endusers [was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering] Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 09)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Schwartz (Oct 06)
- Contracts (was: Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Deepak Jain (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Senie (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering James Spenceley (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Roesen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Charles Gucker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Roesen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Lewis Butler (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Charles Gucker (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Charles Gucker (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Tom Sands (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Roesen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)