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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:46:55 -0400
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:27:24 PDT, David Schwartz said:
Level 3 cut of Cogent's connectivity. Until and unless they give some reason that makes sense, they are no longer making the effort and are not part of the internet.
If I had a garden, things would grow *so* wonderfully next year if I spread this stuff on it. So are you saying that if *your* AS was peered at a dozen places, and you dropped *one* because it wasn't cost-effective, that you wouldn't be part of the Internet, even though you still had 11 peers going full blast? By the same logic, Cogent isn't part of the Internet *EITHER*, because they're not bending over backwards to buy transit to get the L3 routes accessible again. For that matter, AS1312 isn't part of the Internet either, because we're only connected at 2 major points at the moment, and we're not making much of an effort to get connectivity to places that for one reason or another don't see a routing announcement for us, or we don't see their announcement. And I'm sure that with 180K routes, there's gotta be at least a dozen that we can't actually talk to... But oddly enough, I *seem* to be on the Internet. What's wrong with this picture?
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