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Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:22:16 -0400
On Jun 1, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
Zombies do both, but my comment wasn't about zombies, it was about users. If you are a user with a vanity domain trying to send e-mail "From: user@vanity.domain", you cannot through VZ's system. Despite the fact we have spent years telling people they have to use their local ISP's mail server to send mail out. Does VZ support SMTP AUTH these days? (My info is over a year old.)Verizon has many odd choices in their history, indeed. Still, how many DSL users actually *need* to use an account other than that given to them by their ISP?
Many thousands, perhaps 100s of thousands.
I find this extreme measure quite a good step, and in the right direction.
I do not.
There is no real reason why you should be able to email out with bush () whitehouse gov using Verizon's own servers.
Of course not. But "me () mydomain com" is perfectly reasonable.
If you are an advanced enough user to have your own vanity domain then you are advanced enough to have your own SMTP server. If port 25 is blocked, you can probably sort this out with your ISP (if said ISP is responsive to your needs) and/or move an ISP.
The example given in this thread proves you wrong. My friend had a vanity domain, did not have her own mail server.
But that's OK, we should tell people one thing (use your ISP's server to send mail) and do another (block them from sending mail through their ISP's server).
Makes the "clueless majority" much happier when even the "techies" can't figure out WTF they are supposed to do.
-- TTFN, patrick
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- Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists Rich Kulawiec (Jun 01)
- Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies (was: Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists) Steven Champeon (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies (was: Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Martin Hepworth (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Steve Sobol (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies (was: Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 01)
- Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies (was: Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists) Steven Champeon (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Gadi Evron (Jun 01)
- Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 01)