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Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies (was: Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists)


From: Steven Champeon <schampeo () hesketh com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:28:22 -0400


on Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 12:07:33PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
(As to Verizon itself, since three different people pointed out the
relative lack of SBL listings: keep in mind that SBL listings are put
in place for very specific reasons, and aren't the only indicator of
spam.  Other DNSBLs and RHSBLs, e.g. the CBL, use different criteria
and thus provide different measurements (if you will) of spam.  So,
to give a sample data point, in the last week alone, there have been
315 spam attempts directed at *just this address* from 194 different
IP addresses (list attached) that belong to VZ.  Have I reported them?
Of *course* not.  What would be the point in that?)

<snip evidence of astounding lack of clue of VZ's customers>

Zombies I expect; what's worse is that they're /obviously/ not even
doing the most basic checks:

Received: from verizon.net ([63.24.130.230])

(63.24.130.230 is 1Cust742.an1.nyc41.da.uu.net, HELO'd as 'verizon.net'
and VZ still relayed it)

Received: from verizon.net ([68.130.237.39])

(68.130.237.39 is 1Cust39.tnt26.mia5.da.uu.net, HELO'd as 'verizon.net'
and VZ still relayed it)

Received: from verizon.net ([68.130.237.35])

(68.130.237.35 is 1Cust35.tnt26.mia5.da.uu.net, HELO'd as 'verizon.net'
and VZ still relayed it)

Received: from verizon.net ([65.34.38.26])

(65.34.38.26 is c-65-34-38-26.hsd1.fl.comcast.net, HELO'd as 'verizon.net'
and VZ still relayed it)

Received: from verizon.net ([65.34.184.15])

(65.34.184.15 is c-65-34-184-15.hsd1.fl.comcast.net, etc.)

IOW, VZ isn't even checking to see if a zombie'd host is forging its
own domain into HELO, regardless of whether it comes from Comcast or
UUNet, and as long as the forged sender has a verizon.net address, and
the recipient hasn't blocked VZ's silly callback system, the message
is relayed. Thanks, Verizon. We can hear you now. 

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