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Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:02:24 -0400

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:51:17 +0400, Gadi Evron said:

If the ISP wants to use SMTP AUTH or other mechanisms to lower abuse, 
that's fine.  But to say "only allow ISP.net from addresses - but  allow
them from anywhere on the 'Net" is kinda ... silly.

No, it makes perfect sense but that is the one thing I fear we'll have
to agree to disagree on.

Nope, Patrick is right on this one.  The ruleset that appears to be in effect
is:

"Anything from anywhere, even if it's from a hijacked box in Korea, can forward
through our server as long as it has a 'totallybusticated () ISP net' From: on it,
but if one of our own customers tries to send through the server with a From:
that says 'customer@vanity.domain' they can't even if they pass an SMTP AUTH
check and prove they're ISP.net's customer..."

And that's borked and wrong.

The solution presented here is not only not a solution, it is also a 
problem.

Okay, then I suppose I don't understand the problem. How exactly do you
mean?

See above - would you consider forwarding mail from outside ISP.net space
without an SMTP AUTH check just because it claims to be 'From @ISP.net'?

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