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Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008


From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath () fas harvard edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:55:08 -0400 (EDT)



On the training issue.  Everybody in our organization understands IPv4 at
some basic level.  The senior staff here myself included are conversant
with IPv6 but you have the level 1 and 2 people who for the most part are
not even aware IPv6 exists and there are a LOT more of them then there are
of us and these are the people who are going to get their world rocked and
who will need extensive training to be effective in a IPv6 world.

                            Scott C. McGrath

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Jeroen Massar wrote:

On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:02 +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:39 -0400, Scott McGrath wrote:
4 - Retrain entire staff to support IPv6

You have to train people to drive a car, to program a new VCR etc. What
is so odd about this?

I had training to drive a car once in my life when I got my drivers
license.  I don't have to get a fresh training for every new car I
end up driving throughout my life.

You will have to get an additional license for driving a truck or even
when you are getting a caravan behind that car of yours though.
Motorbikes also have different licenses and you get separate trainings
for those. They all have wheels, look the same, operate somewhat the
same, but are just a little bit different and need a bit different
education.

You also either read something, educated yourself or even got a training
to operate IPv4 networks, now you will just need a refresh for IPv6.
You can opt to not take it, but then don't complain you don't understand
it. For that matter if you don't understand IPv6 you most likely don't
IPv4 (fully) either.

If I need training to program my new VCR then the operating mode of
that VCR is broken and I'm going to return it asap.

Then a lot of VCR's will be returned because if there is one thing many
people don't seem to understand, even after reading the manual then it
is a VCR.

It's that simple.  Why are people buying iPod's like crazy?  Because
these thingies don't require training.  People intuitively can use
them because the GUI is designed well.

So you didn't read the manual of or train yourself to use your compiler|
bgp|isis|rip|operatingsystem|.... and a lot of other things ?

IP networks are not meant for the general public, they only care that
the apps that use it work, they don't type on routers.
Protocols don't have GUI's or do you have a point and click BGP? :)

Greets,
 Jeroen




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