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RE: The Cidr Report


From: Mike Leber <mleber () he net>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:40:57 -0800 (PST)



On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Frotzler, Florian wrote:


Recent Table History
        Date      Prefixes    CIDR Agg
        04-02-05    151613      103143
        05-02-05    152142      103736
        06-02-05    152231      103721
        07-02-05    152353      103830
        08-02-05    152514      103966
        09-02-05    153855      104090
        10-02-05    154283      104246
        11-02-05    154341      104240
<...>

~ +3000 routes in one week? Anyone else frightened by this?

Florian

any thoughts on how to fix it? my peers keep sending these to me and i'll even 
admit my customers do too. telling people its bad doesnt appear to have an 
effect, at the small end networks seem to collect /24s and announce them freely, 
at the large end i'm still without an explanation as to why large networks 
require so many prefixes - none of them seem to comment?

if people arent self policing it seems the only other way is for the larger 
transit providers to stop accepting prefixes and telling their customers to fix 
their s**t. and i dont see them doing this.

It seems to me they get paid to carry prefixes by their customers.

And their peers listen to the prefixes because they make money by using
those prefixes.

So, to the extent you make money listening to them, use the routes.

And if they start to cause you problems you will have to take corrective
action to stablize your network, as was done a long time ago (internet
time):

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/1995-09/msg00047.html

(link grabbed at random from the archives, I'm sure there are better posts
that actually list the full old school sprint filters.)

However, if you are the one filtering and all your competitors figure out
how to handle 154,000 routes then you will be at a competitive
disadvantage.

Coincidentally, the largest networks also spend the most with their
vendors and get to tell the vendors what they want in the next generation
of boxes they buy.

Mike.

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