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Re: Two Tiered Internet
From: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:16:11 +0000
The whole QoS/2 tier Internet thing I find deeply, deeply suspicious...here in the mobile space, everyone is getting obsessed by IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) and explaining to each other that they need it so they can offer "Better QoS, like the subscribers want". What they really mean, I suspect, is killing third party applications that compete with their own. IMS=I Mash Skype. And, I suspect, "QoS" for SBC customer broadband will mean "the speed we advertise so long as you are paying us for VoIP/video/whatever, shite if you aren't". On 12/15/05, Hannigan, Martin <hannigan () verisign com> wrote:
[ SNIP ]This is not directed at Sean, but please -- as a fomer Cisco engineering flunky, I can distinguish between marketing fluff (even when disguised as a 'case study') and real figures, and the truth is, there are no figures, because there is dismal adoption of the services. Go figure. Whatever.Sean recently joined Cisco marketing hence the quoting of vendor cruft as policy. It would be nice to fess up to that with an @cisco or at least an "I work for Cisco Marketing" disclaimer. -M<
Current thread:
- RE: Two Tiered Internet, (continued)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Hannigan, Martin (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Chris Owen (Dec 14)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet JC Dill (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Scott Weeks (Dec 14)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Fergie (Dec 14)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Fergie (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Hannigan, Martin (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Randy Bush (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Michael Loftis (Dec 19)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Randy Bush (Dec 14)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Hannigan, Martin (Dec 15)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Alexander Harrowell (Dec 15)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Blaine Christian (Dec 15)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Fergie (Dec 15)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Alexander Harrowell (Dec 15)
- BTW, have I mentioned my "perfect storm hypothesis"? David Meyer (Dec 15)
- Re: BTW, have I mentioned my "perfect storm hypothesis"? David Meyer (Dec 15)
- Re: Two Tiered Internet Alexander Harrowell (Dec 15)
- RE: Two Tiered Internet Hannigan, Martin (Dec 14)