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Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors )
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:15:22 -0500
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 06:48:08PM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
but go ahead and visit a few large companies and tell me how many such warning labels you see. as an added boon, note that campuses with blocks of 1000 DIDs end up using the corporate headquarters or the address of the PBX as the 911 locator for all 1000 (or 10000 or whatever) extensions, making the fire dept have to select from among 20 different buildings by looking for smoke plumes. geez, where's the FCC when you need 'em, huh?
They're there, actually. http://www.qwest.com/pcat/large_business/product/1,1016,989_4_25,00.html http://www.xo.com/products/smallgrowing/voice/local/psali/ et al.
i think the selective enforcement here is sickening, and that if old money telcos can't compete without asset protection, they should file for chapter 11 rather than muscling newcomer costs up by calling these things "phone" and then circling their wagons around the NANP. but that's not going to happen, so i predict that the internet will do what it always does-- work around the problem. so, domain names and personal computers rather than "phone numbers" and things-that-look-like-phones. i've got nothing against 911, and i love my local fire dept.
Glad to hear it. But it's not as easy as all that. There are, as I implied in another post, many unobvious end-to-end systemic characteristics that make the PSTN the PSTN that Internet Telephony isn't going to be able to fulfill for some time, if ever, due to the differing fundamental engineering assumptions that underly it.
if there are people out there who want cell-quality voice, are willing to live without 911, but want to make multiple calls at once with flat rate billing, they should be able to choose VoIP (or VoPI, i guess). however, the FCC seems to have decided that this would be $bad, which i guess from the point of view of old money telcos and capital inertia, it indeed is.
I'm not sure that one assumption supports the other, but... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra () baylink com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
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- Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors ) Paul Vixie (Apr 01)
- Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors ) Randy Bush (Apr 01)
- Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors ) Dan Hollis (Apr 01)
- Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors ) Peter Corlett (Apr 02)
- Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors ) Owen DeLong (Apr 01)