Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license)

["Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow () mci com>]

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, John Curran wrote:

> At 4:21 AM +0000 6/13/04, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > We have methods of dealing with these abuse problems today, unfortanately
> > as Paul Vixie often points out there are business reasons why these
> > problems persist. Often the 'business' reason isn't the
> > tin-foil-hat-brigade's reason so much as 'we can't afford to keep these
> > abuse folks around since they don't make money for the company'.
>
> I'll argue that we have don't effective methods of dealing with this today,
> and it's not the lack of abuse desk people as much as the philosophy of
> closing barn doors after the fact.   The idea that we can leave everything
> wide open for automated exploit tools, and then clean up afterwards
> manually with labor-intensive efforts is fundamentally flawed.

that was the last part of my post, initial installs and supportable (end
user supportable) security really is the only way. (or that's my thoughts)