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Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet
From: "Geoincidents" <geoincidents () nls net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:19:39 -0400
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Vixie" <vixie () vix com>
now, though, there's an opportunity to do a marketing U-turn on this.
cable
and dsl providers in the USA can point to the national cybersecurity plan
and
say that to comply with it they have to put infected computers in
cyberjail, Except that they don't HAVE to do this and so it's lying to customers and other ISP's will tell the customers the truth (that they don't have to pay these charges) and presto you are out of business.
refundable after one year if there are no further incidents. then offer
to
remotely manage their host ("give me your root passwords, trust me!") for
an
annual fee of $(0.75*N). if the initial value of N were $500, you might
be
able to get the people who need this service to pay for it. it's worth a
try? Paul, why don't you make this offer to all your relatives? Don't want the job? NEITHER DO WE!! (hoping the relatives comment will invoke the memories of exactly what is required to do this) We are ISP's, we got into this business because we know how to network not how to patch every OS on the planet. It's bad enough we have to filter email or customers go running off to another ISP but to provide security and deal with patching and then on top of that explain to parents how their 14 year old compromised their machine by running something she downloaded off the web so they really shouldn't sue us because someone got their CC and bank account numbers? Geo.
Current thread:
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license), (continued)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license) Owen DeLong (Jun 13)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license) Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 12)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license) John Curran (Jun 12)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet driver's license) Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 12)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Paul Vixie (Jun 12)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Doug White (Jun 13)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 13)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Owen DeLong (Jun 13)
- yo, sean (Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet) Paul Vixie (Jun 13)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Rob Nelson (Jun 13)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Geoincidents (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" Paul Vixie (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" George Roettger (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" Edward B. Dreger (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" George Roettger (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" Edward B. Dreger (Jun 14)
- Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:" George Roettger (Jun 15)
- Math 011 (Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:") Edward B. Dreger (Jun 14)
- Re: Math 011 (Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:") Dan Hollis (Jun 15)
- Re: Math 011 (Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:") George Roettger (Jun 15)