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Re: sniffer/promisc detector


From: haesu () towardex com
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:55:17 -0500


I think I'll pass this onto zen of Rob T. :)

i think he said something along the lines of "security industry is here for my
amusement" in the last nanog.

so yea.. let's install bunch of honeypots and hope all those "stupid" "hackers"
will get caught like the mouse.

by the time you think your enemy is less capable than you, you've already lost
the war.

-J

On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 02:31:06AM -0800, Alexei Roudnev wrote:

The best anty-sniffer is HoneyPot (it is a method, not a tool). Create so
many false information (and track it's usage) that hackers will be catched
before they do something really wrong.

Who do not know - look onto the standard, cage like, mouse - trap with a
piece of cheese inside. -:)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rubens () email com>
To: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: sniffer/promisc detector




That is a battle that was lost at its beginning: the Ethernet 802.1d
paradigm of "don't know where to send the packet, send it to all ports,
forget where to send packets every minute" is the weak point.
There are some common mistakes that sniffing kits do, that can be used to
detect them (I think antisniff implements them all), but a better approach
is to make to promisc mode of no gain unless the attacker compromises the
switch also. In Cisco-world, the solution is called Private VLANs.
Nortel/Bay used to have ports that could belong to more than one VLAN,
probably every other swith vendor has its own non-IEEE 802 compliant way
of
making a switched network more
secure.


Rubens


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald" <gcoon () inch com>
To: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:35 PM
Subject: sniffer/promisc detector



Subject says it all. Someone asked the other day here for sniffers. Any
progress or suggestions for programs that detect cards in promisc mode
or
sniffing traffic?

Gerald



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