Re: Site Finder

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck Nether net>]

        I've been thinking that there should be a new type of
record introduced to be application specific for HTTP, just as
MX only applies to smtp.

        Due to a wide variety of applications relying upon A
records as their method, or method of last resort (eg: if no MX,
go directly to the IN A record) perhaps there needs to be some new
HTTP specific record introduced?

        This would allow anyone to add their own wildcard entries for their
own redirect services (eg: aol and microsoft could run their own on their
own nameservers) without impacting the alternate applications.

        This may be a bit late in the picture to apply this, but I'm
sure that the browser people (ms, aol/netscape, mozilla, apple/safari)
would be willing to do the minor additional coding work as it obviously
would mean the ability to redirect the ad revenue to their own services 
easier if this were implemented, without all the other damage of intrudcing
flat-out A records in wildcarded zones to be used by the http protocol.

        - Jared


On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:06:13AM -0700, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
> Yes, I will heartily agree with this. Having this functionality be
> triggered by a wildcard in the DNS records is the wrong approach. It's
> the application that should be taking care of this
>
> if (NXDOMAIN)
>   redirect(preferences->sitefinder_host, url);
>
> If verisigin wants to partner with someone to actually host the
> sitefinder site but have some switch integrated into like
> IE/Netscape/whatever to use that site, I have no problem with this. It
> becomes a choice of the individual user to use it and the rest of us
> don't get screwed by something we have no control over.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:07:53PM +0100, Ray Bellis wrote:
> > Quoting Rusty Lewis from
> > http://verisign.com/corporate/news/2003/pr_20031007b.html?sl=070804
> >
> > "We will continue to take feedback from both Internet users and the
> > technical community on how we can ensure that the service is available
> > for the many Internet users who clearly like it."
> >
> > Well that's very simple Rusty - stop screwing around with *our* DNS and
> > write a plugin for IE to catch NXDOMAIN, just like the Google toolbar
> > does.
> >
> > That'll allow 90% of the browsing population a *choice*, something the
> > wildcard clearly does not.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > -- 
> > Ray Bellis, MA(Oxon) - Technical Director
> > community internet plc - ts.com Ltd
> >
> > Windsor House, 12 High Street, Kidlington, Oxford, OX5 2PJ
> > tel:  +44 1865 856000   email: ray.bellis () community net uk
> > fax:  +44 1865 856001     web: http://www.community.net.uk/
>
> ---
> Wayne Bouchard
> web () typo org
> Network Dude
> http://www.typo.org/~web/

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