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Re: PAIX


From: Vadim Antonov <avg () exigengroup com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:03:18 -0800 (PST)



On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Petri Helenius wrote:

In any case, TV (of all things) does not have problems with latency or
jitter below 10s of seconds.  All TV content is pre-packaged.

Live events and interactive show's are not.

"Live" events are typically delayed by a minute or so to give time to 
editors to decide on course of action if something goes wrong with "live" 
feed.  In any case, nobody cares about another half-minute of delay.

The same pretty much goes for "interactive" shows - which all have 
interaction loops of minutes, not sub-second response which is hard to do 
over the regular Internet.

In some cases you start to suffer if your latency goes to
multiple-seconds range. That's quite rare anyway, >500ms network
latency is quite rare and add few hundred codec and de-jitter latency
and you'll find that excessive jitter is your enemy, not the latency
itself.

Excessive jitter is easily converted into latency by having bigger buffers
at the receiving end.

So far, the only mass applications which have real need to have low
latency are telephony (including video kind) and on-line gaming.  Those 
are relatively low-bandwidth, and so don't contribute much to long-haul
traffic.

Of course, hauling bits over long-distance circuits costs more than doing 
the same over local exchanges - but the current routing technology makes 
having hundreds of local exchanges somewhat infeasible.

--vadim


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