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not the depeering thread again... (RE: How low can Worldcom stock go?)
From: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam () noc everquick net>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:32:19 +0000 (GMT)
VM> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:29:05 -0400 VM> From: Vivien M. VM> Don't get me started on what C&W did to the Exodus backbone. VM> It used to be that from our servers to my cable modem at VM> home, it was Exodus -> Teleglobe -> Rogers. Now, after a VM> massive round of depeering, it's Exodus -> C&W -> Sprint -> VM> Teleglobe -> Rogers. It's like that with pretty much VM> everything: you used to have some networks who peered VM> directly with Exodus, now traffic to them goes through C&W VM> and UUnet first, etc. The question is how it affects the bottom line. I have a client who used to colo at Exodus. After being quoted in excess of $1500 to set up BGP (!), refusal to cross-connect, and seeing the effects of the depeering, they bailed, and asked us to help build a network the right way so that they can _compete_ with Exodus. I doubt this is an isolated incident. What goes around comes around. As much as I'll whine about the stupidity of excessive depeering, my capitalist side loves it... it's much easier to set up a network with routes far superior than those who decide to force traffic the long way. Don't whine. Take customers away. It's much more productive. Eddy -- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist () brics com> To: blacklist () brics com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist () brics com>, or you are likely to be blocked.
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- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go?, (continued)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? alex (Jun 26)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? Bill Woodcock (Jun 26)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? Alex Rubenstein (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? Deepak Jain (Jun 26)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? mike harrison (Jun 26)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? Chris Kilbourn (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? Deepak Jain (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? Marc Pierrat (Jun 26)
- Re: How low can Worldcom stock go? Richard Irving (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? Vivien M. (Jun 26)
- not the depeering thread again... (RE: How low can Worldcom stock go?) E.B. Dreger (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- RE: How low can Worldcom stock go? blitz (Jun 26)
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- Re: Worldcomm network question blitz (Jun 26)
- Re: Worldcomm network question Stephen J. Wilcox (Jun 26)
- Re: Worldcomm network question Eric Brandwine (Jun 27)
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