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RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN


From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding () sockeye com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:39:27 -0400


Christopher,

There are three questions here - are IM programs a security risk, is number
one. The second is, how does IM come into the network support/communications
equation. The third is, how much time gets wasted using IM or IRC?

Peer to peer file sharing probably has no place in the business world. It's
a leisure thing, and can open you up to liability. On the other hand, who
wants to be the software police, more than is absolutely necessary?

As far as IM and IRC - many folks find them vital to running and
troubleshooting networks, communicating with customers, etc.  They can be
timewasters, but no more so than abuse of the telephone can be. It's not so
much the tool, as the use of the tool that should be a matter of concern.

IRC servers are significant security concerns. IRC Clients, coming from
behind firewalls, less so. Some folks implement private IRC servers bound to
localhost, behind firewalls, for internal use. This is much more secure. IM
tends to be insecure, as it's in cleartext, although encryption extensions
exist. Of course, most of your email is probably cleartext, too. A bigger
concern is that the servers live on someone else's network, so an outage
there may effect your operations.

- Daniel Golding

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Christopher J. Wolff
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN



Jane,

This brings up a good point about IM.  IMHO, IM is a security
risk and I am
establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are
prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs.  My
opinion is that these types of programs contribute more to lack of
productivity than to real problem solving.

So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a
substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction,
allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters,
interlopers
on company time?

Regards,
Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO
Broadband Laboratories
http://www.bblabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Pawlukiewicz Jane
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: How important is the PSTN


Hi all,

Thanks so much for all the great answers. (Could everyone please stop
telling me that im = instant messaging). I knew I should've never gotten
out of bed this morning.

Anyway, 75% of the respondents said the phone is critical. 25% said some
form of IM is critical.

Just in case anyone was curious.

Is it me or is it very quiet in here today?

Jane




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