RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org

["Gary E. Miller" <gem () rellim com>]

Yo Robert!

How about moving this discussion to a more appropriate list?  Nanog
is not the place to discuss spam and we are re-inventing the wheel,
badly, on nanog.

Half the spam I get is from throw away AOL, netzero, earthlink, etc.
accounts.  Spend $10 for a new ISP account, sent 10,000 emails with
MY return address which is valid and on whitelists.  Do it on a long
weekend and get 30k out before you get stopped.

If the spammers can not run their own name servers then they will just
use someone elses.  Last I checked there where over 6,000 ISPs in the
country.  Cancel them one place and they just go to another.

RGDS
GARY
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Robert Blayzor wrote:

> Treat them sort of like SSL certs now.  Charge an annual registrar fee
> per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year)  The more they
> have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more
> they would be deterred to do so.  They're only going to want to change
> so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the
> registrar so many times.