RE: [OT]Microsoft makes networked software 'illegal' on XPunless you pay them..

[Scott Call <scall () devolution com>]

Programs made "illegal" by this license:

VNC
PCAnywhere
Apache (CGI)
IIS (CGI) <-- Weird, ain't it?
etc...

It could conceivably be applied to dedicated Quake servers and the like as
well.

Easy way to solve problem, don't run Wndows VMSNT2kXP :)

Apologies for the non-op content, back to your regularly scheduled noc
pinging.

-S


On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Benjamin P. Grubin wrote:

> Err--I think you guys are reading too much into this.  The license (to
> me, and IANAL), seems to indicate that the workstation cannot be used as
> a server unless you purchase server licenses.  It strikes me that
> language very similar to this has been in the workstation products since
> NT4.
>
> I do, OTOH, think that the legal ramifications sounds quite far-reaching
> since the language is so broad.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On
> > Behalf Of Richard Forno
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:22 AM
> > To: brucewms () pacbell net; Nanog (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: [OT]Microsoft makes networked software 'illegal'
> > on XPunless you pay them...
> >
> >
> >
> > That's funny.
> >
> > Yet another case of someone - either a company through licensing and
> > litigation, or a government through legislation - trying to
> > effect both
> > software quality.
> >
> > Forget the fact that such tools may be exploitable - if
> > you're a computer
> > criminal, the fact you're violating a software license clause
> > probably isn't
> > going to deter you from your actions, much like how 'drug
> > crimes using a
> > gun' probably doesn't deter many drug criminals, either.
> >
> > Instead of addressing the technical problem - eg, poor
> > software development
> > and flaws in how the software works -  we're once again seeing it
> > legislated/litigated away (I'm thinking of Adobe E-Reader,
> > DeCSS, etc here).
> > Talk about burying your head in the sand, which appears to be
> > the status
> > quo, even in today's environment of security hysteria where
> > we 'need to do
> > more'.
> >
> > From what I see here in DC, nobody's REALLY interested in addressing
> > security long term, as it will rock the boat too much; so we
> > continue seeing
> > little goofy ways to look like security is being addressed
> > when in reality,
> > security ISN'T being addressed.
> >
> > rf
> > infowarrior.org
> > windows-free since 1999 :)
> >
> >
> > > From: Bruce Williams <brucewms () pacbell net>
> > > From
> > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/03/18/020318oplivi
> ngston.xml
> > Microsoft's XP license agreement says, "Except as otherwise permitted
> by
> > the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features
> described
> > below, you may not use the Product to permit any Device to use,
> access,
> > display, or run other executable software residing on the Workstation
> > Computer, nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or
> run the
> > Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate
> > license for the Product."
> >
> > I guess this improves security....
> >
> > bye,
> > Bruce Williams
> > "Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers"

-- 
Scott Call      Router Geek, ATGi, home of $6.95 Prime Rib
"Credo Quia Absurdum" (I believe it, because it is absurd.)