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RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?


From: "Scotty Allen" <scotty () scottyallen com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:43:40 -0700


      I have no objection if someone who honestly saw a message I
wrote and
thought I'd be suitable for a particular job emails me asking if I'm
interested. However, the same email would be bulk if sent to everyone who
posts to NANOG, even if says, "I saw your post about "Re: Fwd:
Re: Digital
Island sponsors DoS attempt" and thought you might be interested
in buying
our premium fishing worms".

A corallary to this is the dreaded "I saw your resume on <insert job board
here> and so you must be interested in our offer of <insert job hunting
service here>."  The spammer would argue they are in the right, in that as
part of posting a resume, one is expecting, and inviting responses.
However, I would argue that just because I post my resume, doesn't mean I'm
interested in anything other than serious job offers.

I dealt with a similar situation from the abuse desk end, in which a client
was doing searches of resumes on job boards for a given skill set, and then
mass mailing them with a specific job offer that centered around that skill
set.  It was a tough issue to resolve, because on the one hand, from our
client's perspective, he was contacting people he thought would be genuinely
interested.  And yet, from the recipients perspective, since it wasn't
directed straight to them, it could be considered UBE.

Moral of the story is, it came down to a very fine line of what does
"solicited" mean?  We ended up comprimising that he would fully disclose
where he got his email addresses from, and why he was sending the email,
which all but competely eliminated complaints.

Scotty Allen



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