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Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
From: "Hunter Pine" <hunter () compuhelp com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:37:51 -0400
As I recall, ARIN doesn't let you change DNS authority information in blocks larger than /24. They send the SWiP template back to you. The only way to really give reverse authority for those is to use cname records in the authoritve server's zone and point them to another in-addr zone for the /26 or /27 or whatever, then pull that smaller zone from the end-user's name server. My company knows how to do it, it's just that DSL customers don't give us enough money to spend the time doing it. Typing out 32 cname records, setting up a new zone, and then dealing with the end user when they can't figure out how to set up a master record that allows us to pull the zones is just way too time consuming for the limited profit margin of a DSL line. Hunter Pine Vice President, Network Operations hunter () compuhelp com CompuHelp Technologies 11 Lispenard Street New York, NY 10013 212-995-2955 x21 http://www.compuhelp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com> To: "'Curtis Maurand'" <curtis () lamere net>; "John Murphy" <nanog () mail murfnet com> Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>; <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
Look in the O'Reilly "DNS and BIND" book, 3rd ed., page 217. Also,
RFC2317.
However, I have not yet found a single upstream that even knows how to do it, let alone offers this as a service. They are also not happy that I
won't
sign control of my domains over to them and that I run my own zone
servers.
Gee, why don't I hand over my bank accounts while I'm at it? BTW, if you know an ISP that does, I want their contact number. I'm not trying to win any arguments here. If I lose then I win, because I will
have
found a decent vendor. Also, with my monthly recurring cash on the line, don't you think I've been looking? Also, SpeakEasy seems to not have heard about SWiP.-----Original Message----- From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:curtis () lamere net] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:48 AM I don't remember being able to delegate anything less than a /24 for reverse purposes. Correct me if I'm wrong. You can't swip less than a /24, but you can assign it.On Mon, 14 May 2001, John Murphy wrote:<quote> Roeland Meyer, "None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27anymore, evenwhen they're ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd..." </quote> I really couldn't care less about SpeakEasy. I just didn'tfeel likewatching yet another of your blatantly inaccurate blanketstatements slideby. Case in point, *both* of those statements above are inaccurate. -----------------------Original Message-----------------------From: Roeland Meyer To: John Murphy;nanog () nanog org Date: 5/14/01 5:06 AM Subject: RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OFYOUR CUSTOMERSFrom: John Murphy [mailto:nanog () mail murfnet com] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 8:07 PM I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less than a /24 is just inaccurate. We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our Frame and our DSL customers.Tell it to SpeakEasy.-- ------------------------------------------------------------ Curtis Maurand System Administrator lamere.net Powered by Prexar http://www.lamere.net mailto:curtis () lamere net Linux, OS/2, Windows (any flavor) http://www.prexar.com Cisco, OpenRoute, Lucent MySQL, SQL Server, PHP, Perl ------------------------------------------------------------
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- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS, (continued)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Fraizer (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Dominic J. Eidson (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Adam McKenna (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Adam Rothschild (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Murphy (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS bmanning (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Hunter Pine (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Vivien M. (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Fraizer (May 15)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Murphy (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 15)
- Re: The DSL business model Adam Rothschild (May 17)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Roeland Meyer (May 14)