RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

["John Murphy" <nanog () mail murfnet com>]

I stand corrected.  I checked with our service delivery department, who
actually does our SWIPs these days, and they don't do anything larger than
a /29 any more either, for the same reason that Hunter doesn't.  

My apologies for the flawed data.   


-----------------------Original Message-----------------------
> From:  Christopher A. Woodfield
> To:  Hunter Pine
> Cc:  John Murphy;Roeland Meyer;nanog () nanog org
> Date:  5/14/01  3:38 PM
> Subject:  Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
>
> s/larger/smaller, you mean?
>
> I actually haven't SWIPped a /30 myself - I was referring to John Murphy's 
> statement implying that he has successfully. I have SWIPped /29's, 
> however.
>
> -C
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Hunter Pine wrote:
> > ARIN returns my /30's and says I can't do netblocks larger than /29 so I
> > stopped doing /30's. Are you paying them something on the side or just
not
> > reading all the replies from them? :)
> >
> > Hunter Pine
> > Vice President, Network Operations
> > hunter () compuhelp com
> > CompuHelp Technologies
> > 11 Lispenard Street
> > New York, NY 10013
> > 212-995-2955 x21
> > http://www.compuhelp.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil () semihuman com>
> > To: "John Murphy" <nanog () mail murfnet com>
> > Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>; <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
> >
> >
> > > Yes, ARIN won't _prevent_ you from SWIPping /29s and /30s, but ARIN
> > _requires_
> > > you to SWIP any suballocation larger than a /28, and won't issue
> > > additional blocks to you if your current blocks aren't properly
SWIPped.
> > > -C
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500, John Murphy wrote:
> > > > I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less
than
> > a
> > > > /24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our
Frame
> > > > and our DSL customers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------Original Message-----------------------
> > > > From:  Roeland Meyer
> > > > To:  nanog () nanog org
> > > > Date:  5/13/01  4:21 PM
> > > > Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR
> > CUSTOMERS
> > > > I've had similar problem at SpeakEasy. They still don't have a
> > reverse-DNS
> > > > clue.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mhsc.com/recovery.htm
> > > >
> > > > None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when
they're
> > > > ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd and if you don't
control
> > > > your in-addr.arpa entries you don't control your domain and have no
> > > > security.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct) [mailto:nanog () adns net]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:40 PM
> > > >
> > > > > <FLAME ON>
> > > >
> > > > > PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is
> > > > > the backhaul
> > > > > provider for them both. Need I say more?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were
> > > > > without service
> > > > > for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI
> > > > > and were using
> > > > > our own  IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
> > > > > routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.
> > > > >
> > > > > Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At
> > > > > first, PSI didnt
> > > > > stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
> > > > > CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one
> > > > > at our NOC
> > > > > knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
> > > > > COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows
> > > > > how doesn't work
> > > > > weekends."
> > > >
> > > > > <flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil () semihuman com
> > >
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