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Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play
From: Dean Robb <Dean () PC-Easy-va com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:00:55 -0500
At 03:26 PM 3/6/2001, you wrote:
Awhile back, somebody made a similar accusation. So, I spent the better part of a weekend reviewing a selection of UDRP decisions. Quite frankly, I didn't find a single one that seemed badly reasoned.
Quite a number listed on the mailing list for Domain-Policy; archives at http://lists.netsol.com/archives/domain-policy.html . Everything from decisions that failure to offer to sell the domain is proof of bad faith to decisions where offerring to sell is proof of bad faith; Cities are not entitled to domains with their names; etc. etc. Far too many to list here...
> paying a non-refundable 50k fee in a The fee was always (and I'm going back to IETF, IAHC, and various other discussions) expected to be non-refundable. Pay as you go. Nobody else pays for your cost to operate. Very libertarian.
And fine, as far as it goes in theory. But the fee was considered fairly steep to begin with (since it's basically thrown away money) and the losers' money is being used to fund the winner's TLDs and other operations. Far from an option or performance bond, this appears to be a simple "We need money, so we're going to extort it from you" plan.
Apparently, you've never optioned property.... Or supplied a performance bond.
One doesn't pay the property's full price for the option nor lose the bond if they perform. This was high-stakes poker with a $50k ante. There *appear* to have been...improprieties...in the decision-making process, hence the outcry. If you lose fairly, well..suck it up. If, however, the deck appears to have been stacked...
> completely arbitrary and capricious process, Really? In the legal sense? What proof do you offer?
Recommend you join domain-policy () lists netsol com where we discuss these matters more fully. It's not really NANOG material (at this point, anyway).
The public participation around the world has far outstripped anything
I'd ever expected. On that basis alone, it's a success.
You *MUST* be joking. Participation like becoming at At-Large member so that I could enjoy the benefits of membership...um, I mean, be allowed to vote one time for a member? Participation like people not being allowed to attend "public" meetings? Or not being allowed to speak even at the "public" meetings? Participation as in public comment on the Verisign deal?
Yes, I wish that things were moving faster. I wish that the fully envisioned board had been selected. I wish that there was more sunshine. But, I realise that not every citizen on the planet has the same adversarial bent in their civilization, and that some even consider collegial closed meetings more civilized!
More civilized? Perhaps. Contrary to democratic principles? Certainly.Really...you simply MUST join us on Domain-Policy to discuss this issue in more depth...
Dean Robb www.PC-Easy-va.com On-site computer services Member, ICANN At Large
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- Re: [NANOG] Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Patrick Greenwell (Mar 08)
- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Steven J. Sobol (Mar 07)
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- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play David Schwartz (Mar 07)
- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play John A. Tamplin (Mar 07)
- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Charles Sprickman (Mar 07)
- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Scott Gifford (Mar 08)
- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Dean Robb (Mar 07)
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- Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play Kevin Loch (Mar 06)
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