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Re: DDoS attacks


From: Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:05:54 -0400 (EDT)



On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Brad wrote:

However, the problem here is not-so easy to
take care of on the provider(s) end.  I tend to see this
problem more-like open-relay issues.  A open-relay SMTP
server is just-as much a pain in the rear as a compromised
windoze box (if not more) and we have several ways to combat
open-relay issues currently through various testing and
filtering systems.

No kidding? Your somewhat twisted "re-education" approach finds 
it perfectly normal to liken an illegal hacker activity (DDoS) 
with a perfectly legitimate business operation of an ISP, for
the "crime" of simply having an open relay SMTP server.

Well, I happen to think that communications blackholing enterprises 
such as the one run by former Abovenet boss Dave Rand and Metromedia
employee Paul Vixie are to be likened to denial of service attacks. 

There should be no question that the guilty party is the actual
hacker or spammer. If the legal system doesn't provide ISPs adequate 
protection under current laws, then new ad-hoc laws should address 
the problem.

--Mitch
NetSide

http://www.dotcomeon.com


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