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Re: Forcasts, why won't anyone believe them?


From: Brian <bri () sonicboom org>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:07:48 -0800 (PST)


Thi is largely card dependent I suspect.  Cisco specifies 100amps I
believe for their dc power supplies on 12008s, a company I worked for
previously ran 25 amp circuits with 20 amp breakers to each, and even the
burst of a sudden power on doesn't get near enough to that to cause a
problem.

        Brian

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Jeff Cours wrote:


Sean Donelan wrote:
One thing that would help.

Sun, Dell, Cisco, Compaq, Juniper, etc.  Can you please start listing
the true power draw of your equipment, not just the fuse rating.  It
would make forcasting a lot easier, if we knew ahead of time how much
the equipment will really draw.

I'm not sure they can. Doesn't the actual power draw of a piece of
equipment depend on what it's doing? For example, a rack full of Pentium
III's that are acting as routers are mostly doing integer calculations,
running bus transceivers, and driving communications links. That same
rack full of Pentium III's acting as a render farm for your favorite
Hollywood movie will be doing floating point intensive calculations,
wide-spread memory access, spinning the disk drives, and, because of the
extra heat, working any variable-speed cooling fans harder. I'd expect a
measurably higher current draw in the second case.

It might be possible to come up with some sort of average power draw,
but Electrical Engineers really hate to give out numbers like that
because people base their designs on them instead of on the worst case
power draw, and then when something fries the EE winds up getting the
blame. That's why most engineering disciplines derate components and
allow a safety margin, which I suspect is where the fuse rating comes
from.

- Jeff

-- 
Jeff Cours
Senior Engineer
UltraDNS, Inc




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