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RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
From: "John Ferriby" <john () interbroad com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:42:57 -0400
Since when is operating an open relay against the law? Please quote the federal law NetSide has broken in having its mail servers configured as they always were since we started in 1995.
To my understanding it is _undefined_ at this point and therefore legal. Neither is is _illegal_ to engage the necessary resources to avoid them. The courts, God help us, will sort this out and there will likely be some form of legislative definition too. The root of the issue really goes to the question of whether an ISP is a Common Carrier. I am of the opinion that most would say both Yes and No, and that we are now in the process (here in the US) of trying to hammer this out. I can't really speak for other countries.
Now let me ask you, if it's legal to operate an open relay, then why should we willingly submit to Vixie's law?
MAPS is at best "subscriptive", requiring the implementing party to enable it. (I am of the mind that the so-called evidence of source modifications to Sendmail is weak.) In time our legislators will prescribe governing law and the cycle of enforcement, challenging and refining the law will begin its tedious process. One could use Dun and Bradstreet or other reporting agency as an analogy. There are due-process issues that must be handled carefully, but it is hardly illegal. MAPS is simply a reporting service. I, for one, have grown weary of the villification of Paul Vixie and Dave Rand. Adding such quips only undermines the anti-MAPS arguments and gives this an emotional quality that it does not merit.
Current thread:
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting, (continued)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Tim Wilde (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Jeff Aitken (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Mitch Halmu (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Christopher A. Woodfield (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Vivien M. (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Mitch Halmu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Dan Hollis (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Mitch Halmu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Dan Hollis (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting David Luyer (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting John Ferriby (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Matt Cramer (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Etaoin Shrdlu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Patrick Greenwell (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting John Fraizer (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Jared Mauch (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting ad nauseum Geoff Zinderdine (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Adam Rothschild (Aug 13)