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RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:36:44 -0700
Can you explain to my how we made the transition from third-party relays to open-relays? Or is it that ORBS considers the "third-party relay == open-relay" to hold true? I don't agree with the latter and this is the source of my dislike for ORBS. ORBS doesn't properly consider that case, nor does it test for that case. That is the prime fallacy behind ORBS operations. Every case that I've made is for controlled third-party relaying in both SMTP and POP.
From: Derek J. Balling [mailto:dredd () megacity org] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:15 AMAlso, as I said, there are valid reasons to allow third-party relays. In fact, they are even required, depending on circumstances.Sorry... don't buy it. Upgrade your MTA to sendmail 8.10 or
above and
have your customers use current versions of their MUA's if they
wish
to travel. SMTP-AUTH is your friend and it appears to be fairly
well
supported now within the various consumer MUA's. (Admittedly,
this
time last year that wasn't necessarily the case) I fail to see an occurrence where an open relay is "necessary".
Can
you describe one for me?
I've already done this, bring counter examples or clearly refute the examples given. BTW, sendmail 8.10 is still in beta. Also, even when one uses POP/SSL one still hits the anti-relay blocks if you are calling in from a foriegn network (XTND XMIT case). In addition, direct SMTP, from many popular dialup blocks, hits many anti-spam filters, regardless of content (ie ix.netcom.com, juno.com, aol.com).
Current thread:
- RE: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH, (continued)
- RE: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH Roeland M.J. Meyer (Jul 09)
- RE: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH Christopher Palmer (Jul 10)
- RE: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Open Broadcast Amplifier networks list. Simon Lyall (Jul 12)
- Re: "top secret" security does require blocking SSH Stephen Sprunk (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Sabri Berisha (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Richard Irving (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Derek J. Balling (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Scott McGrath (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Brett Frankenberger (Jul 11)
- OT: C&W Engineer Bradly Walters (Jul 11)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Sabri Berisha (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Jul 10)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 09)