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Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:49:43 -0500
After all the bashing, I get to gloat a little. I see the guy in Russia took his model from ORBS, and did exactly the same thing: He apparently used a security exploit to get data, and published that data. So far, it doesn't sound like he made any credit card charges. Sounds like he didn't actually damage the compromised system. According to Derek Balling and a few others, he should be free and clear. According to those few people, the cracker hasn't done anything wrong. According to those same people, CD Universe accepted the consequences of having an insecure server. Anybody could accessed the data. So it must be publicly available information then. He just published some publicly available data. US law doesn't apply to Russians. The fault here is with CD Universe for operating an insecure server. There is no fault with the guy who published the credit cards. He is not responsible if other people misuse that data. Wrong. If it wasn't already clear to reasonable people, it certainly is now. Those people who made those stupid assertions are clearly full of crap. Now what happens to the Russian ISP that refuses to shut down the site? Yep. You guessed it. --Dean Around 05:37 PM 1/10/2000 -0800, rumor has it that Randy Bush said:
And if anything disparaging about the chinese government were to appear on his web site, he could be extradited and put to death!Who gets his organs.....warning, there may not be a full set
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Current thread:
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion, (continued)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Owen DeLong (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Jim Popovitch (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Shawn McMahon (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dan Hollis (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion David Lesher (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Randy Bush (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 11)
- RE: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Rachel Luxemburg (Jan 11)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Brett Frankenberger (Jan 11)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 11)