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Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
From: "Shawn McMahon" <smcmahon () eiv com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:51:50 -0500
You better hope a court strikes that interpretation down, Dean. If it holds, then it would mean that the reverse could also be true. Imagine one of your users posts something defamatory to the Chinese government on their web site, and a Chinese web browser picks it up. Congratulations, your network just sent information into China that violates Chinese law. Better hope we don't sign an extradition treaty with them any time soon. Similar crimes, albeit with less nasty punishments, could happen with countries with which we *DO* have extradition treaties. This is a can of worms that will bite us all in the ass, if opened. Fortunately, I doubt that you'll get far. I sure hope you don't. I'd hate to see what happens if, say, somebody uses my email server to send a death threat to, say, the President of France. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Anderson" <dean () av8 com> To: "Adrian J Close" <adrian () esec com au> Cc: <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
I've already spoken with FBI about juridiction. FBI considers crimes against US computers to be US crimes, even when initiated from foriegn countries. They can extradite for this. That it originated from NZ
isn't
an issue. While the FBI agreed that these were indeed violations, my initial complaint was not prosecuted because we could at the time only
come
up with $900 in damages. We are closing on the $100K mark, where I'll
make
an updated complaint, which I hope will get more attention.
Current thread:
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion, (continued)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion I Am Not An Isp (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Deepak Jain (Jan 09)
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- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Hank Nussbacher (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Owen DeLong (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Jim Popovitch (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Shawn McMahon (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dan Hollis (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion David Lesher (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Randy Bush (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 11)
- RE: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Rachel Luxemburg (Jan 11)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Brett Frankenberger (Jan 11)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 11)