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Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting


From: Daniel Senie <dts () senie com>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:30:26 -0400


dan () netrail net wrote:

In a democratic process, which ARIN is, refusal to participate in the
voting process, when eligible, usually removes one's standing to complain.

Cough up your $500 as an individual and you can buy a vote. Sounds
democratic...


This is a non-issue. Very few hosting companies of any size are assigning
individual IPs to individual sites. Most use some sort of HTTP file
transfer as well.

Your authoritative statement is interesting. Could you provide the
quantitative data that your statements represent? Using words like "few"
and "most" tend to imply a knowledge of the numbers.

This is not due to any benefit or deficiency in HTTP or
FTP. It's done this way to reduce IP usage, and to make the end-user
experience a smooth one. End-users of web services generally prefer the
dreaded "klicky" interface over it's trickier cousin, command line FTP.

Must be an interesting study. Would like to read it. Please give
citations. In my clearly unscientific polling of a few friends, they had
no trouble with using FTP, from a command line, no less. It'll be
interesting to see just how small a minority we are.


On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Patrick Greenwell wrote:


On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Alec H. Peterson wrote:


"John A. Tamplin" wrote:

Well, if the policy is that you have to use name-based hosting everywhere
feasible and do something different for those customers that need
something different, that can be quite a hardship on existing setups.
For example, re-engineering all the tools to create and maintain vdom
services, changing existing customer setups, etc.  It is certainly easier
to treat all hosting customers alike, rather than have completely
separate setups and then have to change a customer from one to the other
when they add or delete services (including downtime).

That was also brought up at the meeting, however it was generally agreed
that the address savings were worth the work.

Very thoughtful of the assemblage to make that determination for everyone
else.




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Daniel Senie                                        dts () senie com
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