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Re: ARIN whois
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:44:51 -0800
On 11/22/99, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com> wrote:
A point that Dean makes here is pretty valid. Last year MHSC tried to run a third-party secure email service, using sendmail. The only way to do that is to allow relaying. The nimrods, that are about closing down all mail relays, absolutely ignore valid business uses for the relays. They don't understand that someone might want to use a different SMTP server, than the one their ISP uses, in order to send to someone in the WEB, FTN, VPN, or PER TLDs. That sort of gateway MUST allow relays in order to function.
A couple years ago I might have agreed with you. Right now, today, November 23 in the year of somebody's lord 1999, there is no excuse for leaving your relays open to the world. We have the technology to authenticate. Use it.
I know Ron Guillimette from my daze on the anti-spam lists. Not only is he rabid, but he lacks a lot of sense. He's an "ends justify means" type.
Ron does not represent the whole of the anti-spam community, or even just the folks who want open relays closed so that spammers stop getting a free ride. He's on his own trip. ---------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk () cybernothing org> =========--------- | "Welcome to my nightmare | | Its the one in which I always press the button." | | -Roy Harper | ----========== http://www.cybernothing.org/jdfalk/home.html ==========----
Current thread:
- RE: ARIN whois, (continued)
- RE: ARIN whois Patrick Evans (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois William Allen Simpson (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Alex P. Rudnev (Nov 23)
- Message not available
- RE: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Alex P. Rudnev (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Greg A. Woods (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Steve Sobol (Nov 30)
- Re: ARIN whois David Lesher (Nov 23)
- Stop the anti-spam spam (was ARIN whois) Christopher P. Lindsey (Nov 23)