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RE: ARIN whois
From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () virgin relcom eu net>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:38:32 +0300 (MSK)
If you protect yourself from open relays too hard, you really protect yourself from the usefull mail. It's reality. The best way to stop the SPAM is to turn your computer off. There is many reasons why someone hold open relay; while this relay don't send you spam, it's not your business... many providers simpli filter open relay detectors out (such as ODBS), moreover, an attempt to use this _crazy_ (active) lists results in the loss e-mail and can't be used by the serious companies.
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 6:34 AM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: ARIN whois I have not idea what all this drivel has to do with ARIN whois, but there is not such thing as "WEB, FTN, VPN, or PER TLDs." And we have not yet heard of a "valid business reason". Proof by assertion is not sufficient. "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:A point that Dean makes here is pretty valid. Last yearMHSC tried to run athird-party secure email service, using sendmail. The onlyway to do that isto allow relaying. The nimrods, that are about closing downall mail relays,absolutely ignore valid business uses for the relays. Theydon't understandthat someone might want to use a different SMTP server,than the one theirISP uses, in order to send to someone in the WEB, FTN, VPN,or PER TLDs.That sort of gateway MUST allow relays in order to function.WSimpson () UMich edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
Aleksei Roudnev, (+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN whois, (continued)
- Re: ARIN whois Steve Dispensa (Nov 22)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 22)
- RE: ARIN whois Ehud Gavron (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Patrick Evans (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois William Allen Simpson (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Roeland M.J. Meyer (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Alex P. Rudnev (Nov 23)
- Message not available
- RE: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 23)
- RE: ARIN whois Alex P. Rudnev (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois J.D. Falk (Nov 23)
- Re: ARIN whois Greg A. Woods (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Derek J. Balling (Nov 22)
- Re: ARIN whois Steve Sobol (Nov 30)