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Re: Suggestion: Add contact entry to whois


From: Tim Wolfe <tim () clipper net>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:58:12 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Bob Allisat wrote:

 How about this astro... FCN, in protecting the
 privacy of it's law-abiding clients, keeps all
 information provided PRIVATE and CONFIDENTIAL.
 As per our Terms of Service. In the event of 
 the rare abuse of our services those aflicted
 contact the appropriate authorities who, in
 term, begin investigating like they would any
 other complaint from the public. If the need
 arises they seek a court order for information
 which is otherwise confidential. The investigation
 continues to what is, hopefully, an appropriate
 conclusion. All with public oversight, civilian
 control and legal safeguards.


How utopian.  The only problem with that argument is that stopping a DOS
attack does not require that a provider to divulge confidential information
about a customer anyways...  Unless of course, someone is trying to bring
legal action after the fact, which is normally accompanied by the court
orders, subpoenas, etc that you cherish so much.  Maybe I'm just doing
something extraordinary, but if someone calls me up and says, "I'm seeing a
massive smurf attack originating from X.Y.Z.A and we see that you own
X.Y.Z.A-X.Y.Z.F.  Can you verify and take action according to your
AUP/TOS?", I can't think of why I would need to divulge client info to
accede to that request..  I can just verify the veracity of the accuser's
info, and take action.  I'm just not following your logic, do you think that
if someone calls and says "X.Y.Z.A is (insert DOS)ing me!", you must reply,
"Oh yes, it's company XYZ.Net, they are so naughty!"

Tim

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