nanog mailing list archives
Re: ORBS block
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:23:20 -0800
On 12/18/99, Derek Balling <dredd () megacity org> wrote:
Anyone can do whatever he wants with his/her mail server. The Network Operator can do whatever he wants with his network, BUT if the network provider has downstream customers, paying for internet connectivity, and the operator filters out part of that connectivity, then the operator has voided the contract (by filtering out a portion of the network the downstream may consider "important") in a manner that allows the downstream to bail out of any such contract. (I think such a filter could be considered "materially altering the service provided" although IANAL). I think that's the gist of things from what I've seen...
Yup, we've seen those arguments before. It seems common for the operator of said network or server to say "I can do any damned thing I please," and users or customers to whine "no you can't!" without reading the contract. Truth is, in most contracts, the folks who own and operate the equipment can do whatever they please, and if their down- stream users/customers/wankers/whatever don't like it they can find another provider. Personally, as long as policies are clearly spelled out, I have no problem with that. ---------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk () cybernothing org> =========--------- | "Well, you don't have to worship Cthulhu very long, | | but I'm told it's an interesting experience." | | -- Scott K. Stafford | ----========== http://www.cybernothing.org/jdfalk/home.html ==========----
Current thread:
- RE: ORBS block, (continued)
- RE: ORBS block Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Dec 16)
- Re: ORBS block Greg A. Woods (Dec 16)
- Re: ORBS block Tim Wolfe (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Alex P. Rudnev (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Paul Vixie (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Greg A. Woods (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Daniel Senie (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Greg A. Woods (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block I Am Not An Isp (Dec 18)
- Re: ORBS block Derek Balling (Dec 18)
- Re: ORBS block J.D. Falk (Dec 18)
- Re: ORBS block Paul Vixie (Dec 18)
- Re: ORBS block Tim Wolfe (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Alex Kamantauskas (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Tim Wolfe (Dec 17)
- Re: ORBS block Greg A. Woods (Dec 17)